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鈿狅笍 PSA Kiwifarms going down 

If indeed kiwifarms is going to be down for good, please understand that y'all should expect a TON of new activity in the fediverse. We've seen it with other sites and this is no different. If you're an admin be prepared for adding new domain blocks, if you're a user do not shy away from reporting and please consider enabling follow requests and disable DMs from non-mutuals.

I know this feels like an overreaction, but better safe than sorry. 馃枻

鈿狅笍 PSA Kiwifarms going down 

Bump because yeah it may have actually happened.

鈿狅笍 PSA Kiwifarms going down 

@werefox oh damn it's going down? excellent

鈿狅笍 PSA Kiwifarms going down 

@heatherhorns it's down right now, news is no one is sure if it'll be down for good. It is good news but yeah just looking out for folks.

鈿狅笍 PSA Kiwifarms going down 

@werefox @heatherhorns Cloudflare still doing absolutely nothing 馃檭

Surely if they can take half the internet down every few months they can take one site down permanently-

鈿狅笍 PSA Kiwifarms going down 

@werefox unfortunately I somehow doubt that it will be going down permanently. I was just explaining to someone today about how they use an unimaginable amount of time and resources just to be hateful

鈿狅笍 PSA Kiwifarms going down 

@david agreed, but regardless the PSA stands. We always see an uptick when stuff like this happens.

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@david @werefox if they lose DDOS protection, they鈥檒l never be up for long

鈿狅笍 PSA Kiwifarms going down 

@werefox tbh they're just going to go to poast

鈿狅笍 PSA Kiwifarms going down 

@[email protected] What about https://kiwifarms.cc? Do you think everyone will just migrate there?

鈿狅笍 PSA Kiwifarms going down 

@soulfire it's possible, but the PSA was mainly based on behavior patterns I've seen in the past. Something like this happens and then a ton of asshats flock to here.

鈿狅笍 PSA Kiwifarms going down 

@werefox right now I feel it鈥檚 definitely a temporary thing 鈥 sadly

鈿狅笍 PSA Kiwifarms going down 

@EmberDev the PSA is still warranted. We usually do see an uptick when stuff like this happens.

鈿狅笍 PSA Kiwifarms going down 

@werefox yep, definitely

鈿狅笍 PSA Kiwifarms going down 

@werefox there's already a farms fedi instance, which is the domain name but with a .cc TLD, in the past during outages they redirected their main site to that instance as a comms backup

鈿狅笍 PSA Kiwifarms going down 

@toydragon I fully suspect they may do that, but additionally I'm sure we'll still see some instances pop up.

鈿狅笍 PSA Kiwifarms going down 

@werefox oh definitely, as well as them hopping onto established instances...

鈿狅笍 PSA Kiwifarms going down 

@werefox Since reading this post, I've gone from having no idea what Kiwifarms was, to having read half a dozen articles on it, and good God, some people are just sick in their soul.

鈿狅笍 PSA Kiwifarms going down 

@werefox They already have their own Matrix server cluster. That most of us blocked more or less immediately. It's not overreacting.

Also, Null said that if he had to take the whole site down he'd put it on BitTorrent.

Now researching ways to sabotage torrents.

鈿狅笍 PSA Kiwifarms going down 

@werefox Hi ! What's kiwifarms ?

鈿狅笍 PSA Kiwifarms going down 

@marud @werefox It has an article on Wikipedia but, in brief, it's a site where people coordinate online and IRL harassment of victims who, for example, are transgender or have ADHD. At least three people have died by suicide as a result of this harassment. It's loathsome.

鈿狅笍 PSA Kiwifarms going down 

@markusl @werefox Wow. Humanity at it's finest...

Thanks for the info!

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@markusl @marud @werefox

On one hand what you're saying is true, on the other hand they also expose some important stories that slip through the mainstream. I found this thread about the topic interesting:

https://twitter.com/heterodorx/status/1566223655738146816

Regarding keffals for instance, the original story is that keffals probably helped provide minors with sex change hormones, and further, moderated a community in which grooming of minors might have been happening. Keffals also seems to display and support some extreme misogyny.

None of that justifies what KF do, because their doxxing is likely to result in vigilante action by extremists from the other end of the spectrum.

I've been doxxed by KF too by the way, for supporting feminists. They revealed my full name and home address. Thankfully nothing drastic happened since I'm a small fish, and it actually emboldened me to go completely public with my identity.

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@taylan @marud @werefox I'm glad nothing too bad happened to you, and I'm impressed that you can talk neutrally about KF despite your experiences.

Sometimes the reason a story isn't carried by the mainstream press is that it isn't true or the evidence is too flimsy.

In any case, if I thought someone was grooming, I'd go to the police, not the press. That's what KF should do, rather than playing vigilantes.

鈿狅笍 PSA Kiwifarms going down 

@werefox Yep. I've already had to report and block one user this morning, and I was a hair's breadth from reporting a second one.

Thanks for the PSA. Stay well. Stay safe.

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