@Timmy so many american politicians and especially presidents have their blatant south american imperialism completely revised or overlooked when americans look back and laud them, even among leftists, and it's pretty frustrating

@syash it scares me that I see a lot of those tendencies still exist within our government. The politicians that got a pass 50 years ago now have NGOs named after them that drum up support for more global violence to this day

@dreqaa allende was definitely not as far left as people made him out to be but he was far from a capitalist or authoritarian. cybersyn was conceived under socialist ideals with the purpose of coordinating newly nationalized industries when there was no efficient infrastructure to do so.

@syash Therefore, Allende also has his own mistakes. People should think about it carefully, instead of simply making a martyr. Only revolution can respond to reactionaries.

@dreqaa no politician to grace this earth deserves the pedestal of a martyr, but to label allende, a figure overwhelmingly supported by the working class, reactionary is misguided at best and outright misinformation at worst, especially in the context of cybersyn

cybersyn was not created to automate labor but rather to facilitate the process of data feedback so as to shift power and decision making to the workers and create worker-led, self-reliant factories

@syash If you have this kind of information and articles, you can recommend some, thx!

@dreqaa i was born and still live here in Chile and most of what i know is based on my history education, a couple of books and what little i've studied on my own about the topic

i've been meaning to find a good Chilean book i can recommend on this whole thing because the internet is full of red-scare revisionist stuff. Perlas y Cicatrices is super nice and also very queer, not a history book tho

@grainloom frankly, i haven't seen the movie so idk. heard a few good things? but don't take my word on it